Regulate Guns Not Uteruses - Our Juicy Life Update

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Activation warning: this episode is largely focused on the overturning of Roe v. Wade. 

It’s about time the government was saged don’t ya think!?

In this bonus episode, we speak about the peaks and oh so obvious pit of our week as we catch-up on what is happening in each other’s lives and self-love journeys. As the events of this week were jarring to say the least, we take deep breaths, dive into foster care statistics, guidelines for protest posters, social media posts, and conversations surrounding the overturning of Roe v. Wade. 

We also talk about:

• What Kelly is daydreaming about
• Fear is a control mechanism 
• How Kendle just wants everyone to read the freaking room 
• Our low sex drives 
• Kendle’s homework assignment

A portion of the proceeds from this episode will go to organizations womxn’s health / abortion care. 

Resources:

Foster Care Statistics 

all about love by bell hooks 

Cobalt Abortion Fund
Planned Parenthood

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Transcript

Kendle: Hey y'all. You're listening to no Offense and a loving and nourishing space created to fuel conversations around personal and collective liberation. We're Kelly Kendle, having vulnerable and intentional conversations full of humor, empathy, and of course, love. 

Kelly: Honestly, these episodes are just our opinions. So take no offense and we invite you to explore yourself through our words. Help grow our community by leaving a review and most importantly, sharing. Now, let's get into some self loving.

Kelly: We just had the best little dance party. 

Kendle: Drop it low. What was it called?

Kelly: I don't know, but it just made me want to shake my ass. And any song that makes me want to shake my ass, I'm down with. 

Kendle: Press Play. Repeat.

Kelly: Exactly. Yes. And I did repeat it yesterday at the Gym. I found it. I totally did. I was like, I'm repeating this. I am obsessed. Screenshotting it so we could do it today.

Kendle: Oh, thank you. 

Kelly: I had a feeling we would need it today because I know it's been a very tough week, but also a very amazing week. 

Kendle: Hit me with that amazingness 

Kelly: pit and perk. Right. Even though it's been a very somber week, I think both of us have the same pit. We still had good things that happen in the week. I learned about why my husband doesn't like to turn on the air conditioning after eleven years. That was very fun. I got to see my niece who was just like my bestie. Every time I see her, I just have so much joy. And this time when we met, we came up with a little secret handshake. Oh, fun. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited to do that. Just like forever and ever.

Kendle:  How old is she? 

Kelly: She is turning six in July. 

Kendle: Awe That's such a fun age. 

Kelly: Such a fun age. And she's got so much personality and you can just tell innately. She's just such a good human being. She's just so sweet and loves everybody and yelly. She's amazing. 

Kendle: ELE - Everybody love everybody. 

Kelly: Yes. What else was a good perk of the week? I cut my face painted on Saturday. 

Kendle: At first, I thought you said I cut my face. I was like okay..

Kelly: face painted. 

Kendle: Face painted. 

Kelly: Yes. I got little snowflakes on my face. When's the last time you had your face painted? Kendle: A long time. It's been a long time. 

Kelly: Yep. It was a great Saturday. Avalanche one this week. Yes. That was exciting. That was exciting. We also went to the design studio and we selected some new stuff for our house. It's coming together. I'm getting so excited now. I was telling Allen yesterday, I'm so excited to finally have our home. Like the first place that we bought, we were broke. We were broke. Broke. So you always kind of have like, oh, this is going to be our first house. And then you see what your money gets you and you're like, oh, wait, hang on, never mind. So we bought that first house it just never felt like home. We always knew we were going to turn into a rental. We kind of talked about this house, so it's home, but not really. And now we're finally like, we picked this house, we're building it together, we're picking everything together. Like, everything that we want in this home is going to be there. And Kali, of course, is going to have a yard. And that's all I can think about. I cannot wait to sit on the covered patio, look at our beautiful view of nature. Be able to, like, walk in the grass barefooted, let her son bathe, sit on the patio, write content, journal. Oh, I'm just like dreaming. 

Kendle: You should so dream away. Always good thing. the universe loves when we daydream. 

Kelly: Yeah, exactly right. Law of  attraction. 

Kendle: Yeah. Elizabeth, the seer that we met through, she always says that daydreams are our spirit guides and angels putting little tidbits of joy into our days. I love that idea. 

Kelly: Yeah, I've definitely been trying to visualize more, like those types of things. Right. The shower I was visualizing while I was showering. Of all the things that I want to come, that I want to come to me, all of the things that I'm grateful for and just, like, closing my eyes and getting lost a little bit in those visions and it's so much fun. 

Kendle: Last week when we were talking about your wedding, we talked about how you learned through manifesting being a manifesting generator through human design, that you are meant to feel into that type of stuff. So would you say that's something you've been doing when you're daydreaming about the house and what you're saying about the showers, are you just existing in it right now because it's new and it's fresh and it's exciting, or do you think that you're trying to cultivate emotions around that as well? 

Kelly: I mean, I think it's everything. Right. And I think it's also hard not to do and not feel emotions. It totally triggers those emotions and especially emotions that I've been so detached and separated from. 

Kendle: Yeah.

Kelly: Now. I've been enjoying it. It's been good. But again, I think one of the last episodes we talked about 

Kendle: That was a water bottle. Sounds like I'm farting 

Kelly: just the education piece and staying with listening to education, reading more. So it keeps me kind of held accountable if I keep engulfing myself in this way of changing my thought patterns and my mindset and all of these things that I'm trying to do in my life. That's super helpful, too. And a lot of the messaging is fairly similar, so it's just nice to get those reminders but also just hear them from different kind of perspectives or wording. A lot of them are saying the same thing, but sometimes when you hear something, it hits differently if someone else does it differently. So, yeah, I think those were all my perks. I had, like, a good week. Yeah. Overall blessings. 

Kendle: Yeah, definitely. I appreciate you sharing that. I feel the energy of it, which makes me happy because I know hardly I feel like most women and people in queer marriages and relationships and people in nonbinary, all of it. 

Kelly: Yeah. 

Kendle: It's collectively a lot. What did you call it? 

Kelly: A peak. 

Kendle: Yeah. The pit and peak of your week. 

Kelly: Pit and perk. 

Kendle: Okay. I've heard it said so many different ways that's the first time I've heard pit and perk. 

Kelly: Yeah. I've heard pitt and peak. 

Kendle: What I did in the camp was always rose, bud, thorns. 

Kelly: Oh, I like that. We're doing that instead. 

Kendle: We're doing that in perk this week. Next week we'll do rose, bud, thorn. 

Kelly: Okay. 

Kendle: I love that we can switch it up all the time. 

Kelly: Yeah. 

Kendle: My perk of this week, I think that it was. taking me a minute to get there. Digging deep a little bit. 

Kelly: Yeah. 

Kendle: I feel like I've been more in the pit of it these last handful of days.

Kelly: which I can understand. 

Kendle: Yeah. And then there's perks in that, though. I mean, my first initial thought was going to the protest that I went to with friend Kelsey and just having her there and her just reaching out, sending me the instant thing immediately and really, oh, we're going. There was just no question about it. It was very comforting. And nourishing, 

Kelly: you went to go sage the government. 

Kendle: Yes. That was our joke. We were like we were saging ourselves beforehand and we were like, we're definitely going to have to sage ourselves when we get home. We're like, we need to sage the government. That is what needs to be saged. 

Kelly: Yes. 

Kendle: So I think that's definitely a perk, is that there have been. Are you ok? 

Kelly: Yeah. I didn't hit my head. It was the clip. 

Kendle: The clip hit. I like that clip is pretty. 

Kelly: Oh, thank you. 

Kendle: Yeah, I think that's been a huge perk, has been the camaraderie, the support, the love. 

Kelly: Community. 

Kendle: Community, exactly. It's been really nice and I feel really grateful that almost a year  of living in Denver, I have developed these relationships with women. And it just is nice because this was me last year, I would be experiencing it a lot differently. And I think another part has been this. Having this to look forward to and having this to generate hope and to feel like I am using gifts and skills and experiences and abilities to serve the collective and doing so in a way that is very authentic. And that's been cool. 

Kelly: I love that. Oh, my God, I'm getting, like a little teary eyed thinking about the podcast. I love that. 

Kendle: I'm excited that we're doing this. It's definitely been a highlight in the week. It's just to have that to look forward to and I mean, coming off of that to the energy of it and how that then curates the days to follow and just the mindset that it helps me to be in. I'm just very grateful that we are doing this and all the things that are to count all of this divine timing has brought us together. 

Kelly: Yes. I mean, I feel like you and I both feel the same way. I think we have always had very similar goals, but we've never really known how to get there. And ever since we've met each other, everything is just kind of like folded into place. And yes, we're doing this in the bathtub, in my bathroom, but it's just the start of something that's going to be so much so impactful to people. Oh, my gosh, I hope everyone else that listens to us, it resonates with them, it makes them feel good, it inspires them, it gives them hope. It just helps people as a collective just be better for themselves so you can be better for others. 

Kendle: Yeah, absolutely. Cultivating self love. We’ve got a lot of lacking of self love. There is such a deficit of love in our world. And yeah, I think that the events of this week, which I think we've just kind of been talking around, roe v. Wade being overturned, that's the pit. 

Kelly: If it wasn't obvious

Kendle: to me, that's so evident that there is such a lack of love. Because I feel with love comes compassion, comes empathy, comes just awareness and caring for other people and doing things, making these decisions. Because really, this was a decision. There's nine people making a choice. It's funny because it's frustrating and laughter is a trauma response, as we have talked about previously.

Kelly: Yes. 

Kendle: For it to just be a choice and for nine people to decide, I don't know, the population of the United States, millions of people's, fate and how this then affects countries elsewhere, we are very lacking in a lot of ways. However, I would say with freedoms, we do tend to be a country that leads the charge, that inspires. And it's terrifying to think of how the implications are going to go across these fake borders that don't even exist anyway. There's so much to unpack here. 

Kelly: Oh, yeah. Like, you're talking about it Im just processing and I think it's just it's annoying. It's just annoying to think that we can go back in time. Like the world, the people, the culture, the society, everything is so different than 50 years ago. We will never get that back and nor should we ever feel like we want that back. We talked yesterday about my views about everything that's happening. And for me, it's beyond frustrating to hear what happened. I'm thankful that I live here in Colorado where that right hasn't been taken away and we're in a place where they're like, no, and it's not going to ever go away. But can everyone else come to us, please? 

Kendle: Yeah. 

Kelly: But for all of these other women and all of these other places. My heart just goes out to them because I can't even imagine what it's like to be a woman living in that space or being in a situation where you desperately need to have an abortion and you no longer have the right to do so. And it could potentially be illegal if you leave the state to get one. Yeah, it's annoying is the only word I guess I could use right now. Yeah, that's appropriate. 

Kendle: Really fucking frustrating

Kelly: Yeah. There is a lot to unpack. I mean, we're going to jump into another episode where we're really going to pack it, the history of it, everything beyond it. 

Kendle: Yeah. 

Kelly: That breath is needed. 

Kendle: Yeah. I want to pause for a moment and just these topics that we are talking about are so emotionally charged and heavy and activating, and I just encourage anyone that's listening. If at any time press pause, take three deep breaths, or just try to cultivate awareness around your breath while we're speaking and try to maintain that deep breath, even write it on a sticky note. And every time you look at the computer or your phone or something, reminder, take a breath in and take a breath out. Because this is a lot for our physical bodies. It's a lot for our emotional bodies, it's a lot for our spiritual bodies. And we're not just holding the weight of our own experience of this, we're holding each other's weight. And it's really charged. I've been very raw. 

Kelly: I know you have. 

Kendle: I've been very on edge. 

Kelly: I know you have. 

Kendle: Yeah. My mom and I are roommates, and we have not been getting along because I just can't with anything. Everything kind of feels like an attack in a way. And I know I need to cultivate compassion because she is also experiencing her own emotions of this, and I'm not going to speak to her experiences. It's a lot for everyone. 

Kelly: It is. It's interesting when you say that, though. I just think about but isn't that the point of them doing stuff like this? Let's cause the fear, let's cause the anger. Let's cause these emotions where it's hard for you to have compassion. Let's do that so we can help separate and defied people and move them further and further away from each other. So as you're talking about that story with your mom on the macro level of that is exactly what's happening to all of these people, and that's why they're doing stuff like this. So, again, I'm so glad that we're here to just help people say that your emotions are okay, to feel what you're feeling is natural. Process that and let's move forward to something more positive. Let's take this negative, horrible situation, dissect it, learn from it, and figure out how we can create something even more beautiful from the situation. And kind of my thoughts on what we had in place 50 years ago with Roe v. Wade and what's happened now is probably something even better that we just don't even see yet, because that was from 50 years ago. That was not serving us anyway. And I know we're going to hop into the history of it and you're going to really dive into that. But right, let's create something better that really served women the way that we should be served, the way that all people can be benefited from this in a more positive, beautiful light. Because honestly, it kind of needed to go anyway. 

Kendle: Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I mean, I'm grateful for the leak because we had the mental preparation. And I do think that the universe is calling for us to shift our perspective on things exactly as you were saying, white supremacy is a virus and it wants us to be divided. It wants us to be separated. It wants us to be in this fear and in this anchor, and it wants us to stay there. And the way that we can challenge that is by pivoting into the gratitude of it. And I do have to pause in that. I mean, as we've been talking about, I think I've been trying to, for myself, maintain the bigger picture. And on the same hand, I just feel so sad and angry and heartbroken for the people who are going to be affected in the interim. 

Kelly: I know. 

Kendle: if we may, I want to read this fact and then this passage from this book. We can put the book in the show notes. 

Kelly: Yeah, absolutely. 

Kendle: So in 2000 and 2200 and 13,964 children under 18 entered foster care. And on any given day, there are nearly 424,000 children in foster care. That's so many children. 

Kelly: Yeah, it's sad. 

Kendle: And we want to bring more people into this world, force people to have children into this world. And this passage from all about love by bell hooks says, “we like to imagine that most children will be born into homes where they will be loved. But love will not be present if the grownups who parent do not know how to love. Although lots of children are raised in homes where they are given some degree of care, love may not be sustained or even present. Adults across lines of class, race, and gender indicts the family. Their testimony conveys worlds of children, of childhood where love was lacking, where chaos, neglect, abuse, and coercion reigned supreme. In her recent book Raised in Captivity why Does America Fail Its Children? Lucia Hodgson documents the reality of lovelessness in the lives of a majority of children in the United States. Every day, thousands of children in our culture are verbally and physically abused, starved, tormented, and murdered. They are the true victims of intimate terrorism in that they have no collective voice and no rights. They will remain the property of parenting adults to do with as they will.”

I'm curious, if the Supreme Court read that, what would their emotional response to that be? 

Kelly: I mean, you asked that and I don't think it would really be that triggered a response like it triggers us. 

Kendle: I would always be so curious to have conversations with people and I'm really struggling to not judge people this week. I feel hurt and disappointed by the lack of conversation I'm also witnessing. I don't understand really how anyone can be in any space and not be talking about this and watching the av’s game partner wanted to I was like yeah, let's watch it. I'm curious if they're going to say anything. He's like, they're not going to. And I just wanted to see. not a single thing set such a massive platform. Lo and behold, find out the man who owns the ads also owns the LA Rams, is married to Walmart Harris, is a billionaire. Kelly: Yeah. Cronky 

Kendle: donated over a million of dollars to Donald Trump, obviously voted for him. And then last night excuse me, two nights ago, we went to Third Eye Blind concert. He wanted to go, bought a bunch of tickets. He went with his friends and I came. And there was also protest that night that I really wanted to go to. I was like, okay, I had already committed to these plans. Mom told me you need to have fun. You've been very low to just go exist and have fun. Okay. I'm also just curious to see I was like, how do I do this in a way that feels authentic to myself? How do I exist in this space? I can't be at a protest. What do I do? It's like, oh, I'm just always going to be in protest. So I had my sign and I pinned it to my bag. 

Kelly: Oh, I saw it on your bag. When you walked in. 

Kendle: Yes. I was like, all right, yes. Okay. I feel comfortable with this now. I am always in protest, so now I can proceed about my life because I was struggling with that and how do I continue doing what I need to be doing? 

Kelly: Well, also yeah. Balance, girl, balance. 

Kendle: Yeah. 

Kelly: You found the secret sauce. 

Kendle: I love sauce. And again, not a single thing was said taking Back Sunday performed. The place was packed. Third Eye Blind performed. And they come to this little interlude. I'm like, oh, is it are they maybe we'll see. They proceed. Which I don't want to discredit this because I am also a huge proponent of climate awareness to talk about how climate change is an issue and how proceeds from I don't know if it's their tour in general or the stop specifically are going to helping to feed this kelp forest in California and they're going to double its size, which is awesome. A week ago would have been like, hell yeah. They have this moment where they're speaking about things that are already dividing people. People have opposing opinions upon it. And I'm not saying that they needed to give more money or change their plans. But you have a stage, you have a platform, and you're not using it. You're just not even bringing it up. And I'm not shocked. I'm disappointed. I mean, all of this is just so much more than what it seems, too, and as we've said, are going to talk about the history behind anti abortion and everything. And I don't know, it's just the lack of acknowledgement, the fear of isolating, of losing people, potentially, that are your fans. To me, that's just like greed and power and putting self above the collective. And I saw this BuzzFeed article. It was like, 18 celebrities that have used their platform to talk about it. Like, why is that an article? Why are there only 18?

Kelly: Yes. 

Kendle: And we have this woman, Mary Miller, she's an Illinois representative, called this decision a victory for white life. 

Kelly: Don't even get me started. 

Kendle: A victory for white life. Claims she misspoke, claims she meant to say right to life. Yes, right. And white rhyme right, too, is two words. White is one word. That is Freud is not my friend. However, freudian slips are a thing that is her subconscious, her conscious, whatever. Kelly: She knew what she was doing. She knew what she was doing. 

Kendle: Exactly. She was caught up in the moment and wasn't actually thinking about her words and said what's she said, what she actually meant to say. That's what all of this is, too. It's just a greater divide. It's just another slap to the face for BIPOC communities. Black women are three times more likely to die of childbirth. 

Kelly: Yeah, I think about it, too, all the time. Honestly. I think about what provider will I see that will not base my health care off of the fact that my husband's black and then I'm going to have a baby that's mixed. That's like a real fear that lives in the back of my head. 

Kendle: Yeah. Very tangible fear. 

Kelly: Yeah. It's crazy. Like, I shouldn't have to ever think about something like that. 

Kendle: Yeah, not at all. 

Kelly: Like, ever. So yeah, but again, the positive side of all of that is even though you're disappointed in all of these other people that aren't doing what they should be doing, what is right. We are. 

Kendle: Yeah, we are trying. 

Kelly: Yeah, for sure. I don't think we're trying. I think just us doing this is we're doing it. 

Kendle: Yeah, absolutely. And that's the important part of having the conversations around it. Kelly: Exactly

Kendle: because they are emotionally charged. They're emotionally charged from hundreds and hundreds, hundreds of years of emotions, of energy. And what we need now is to burn it to the fucking ground and rebuild it. That is what this Age of Aquarius is calling for. And my feelings are on par. Elizabeth, we mentioned her earlier. She does this collaboration with the woman I learned how to do breath work from, and they have a collaboration called Cosmic Tea and Breath Work and excuse me, tarot breath work. And yesterday she pulled my card. It's five of swords. She goes, makes me laugh because I was just like, oh, yes. If you want to burn it to the ground, burn it to the ground. It's time. 

Kelly: And what did I tell you her other card said to me yesterday? It basically was like, don't be afraid. Do what you got to do. Be a beast. Don't just like be about it, but be about it and do it in your truth. Because if you do it in your truth and you stick to your truth, no one can fuck with you. 

Kendle: Yes. 

Kelly: So sorry if I lose a couple of fans, but this is my truth. 

Kendle: Do we have fans? Fans only. 

Kelly: You know what? I'm my own biggest fan. 

Kendle: Yes. That's all that matters. I love that. Well, to close this up, I do want to share some things I learned from the Cobalt Advocacy Group. They're based in Denver and they are just notes of awareness about verbiage not to use when talking about this or making signs that they do go to protest. They say, do not use the terms underground railroad. There are abortion funds and practical support. Orgs already exist to help people navigating getting an abortion. Do not use Handmaid's Tale. This centers rich white folks and ignores the reality that many communities have been living in a world where their reproductive health decisions and outcomes have been wrongfully, controlled, restricted, and criminalized. 

Kelly: It's funny. I saw a video and a girl said, stop with The Handmaid's Tale shit. We're going to go to these protests dressed like warriors. Yes. And she showed a bunch of pictures of all of these beautiful warrior goddess women with the paint on their face, like ready to go to war. And I was like, yes. Because in Handmaid's Tale, those women were what, repressed, controlled? Like, no, we're going to be warriors taking back our fucking bodies. 

Kendle: Yeah. I love that image. And that's exactly how I've been feeling. I, for so long have leaned into that oh, like conditioning of you need to be nice. You need to be kind. You need to be smile at people. And I struggle with this because you never know what someone is going through. So I do always try to give love and I don't want to give that off. However, on the same hand, I'm fucking pissed. And it's a long time coming. And I am tired of sitting in the back thinking I'm doing things. I'm ready to step into that warrior. 

Kelly: And oh, Kenny, I could just see the makeup magic right now. I can't wait to get some like, warrior make up on your face. I can't wait. I'm going to get your spear, okay? 

Kendle: It'll be made from selenite. 

Kelly: And I just want to wear like beautiful also festival clothing because I can be a badass bitch. 

Kendle: Yes. 

Kelly: I can be in my own power and still kick your fucking ass. 

Kendle: Yeah. Yes. 100% and dressing to make myself feel good, not to make any of these men not dressing for the male gaze. Just how I feel. Warriors. So they also said, and please excuse the potential mispronunciation of this, that Shira Law. These barriers to abortion access are created by white supremacist, Christian fundamentalists, and therefore these comparisons are inaccurate, racist, and antimuslim. And they say no coat hangers or back alley abortions. This perpetuates abortion stigmas and implies there are no longer safe abortion. And they also include no slavery references. We don't even need to say this.

Kelly: Yeah. 

Kendle: I think that the most wild thing is how these laws that are going into effect are more so, approaching it from a legal standpoint, trying to convict practitioners and obviously people receiving the abortion and anyone who knows about it, how inappropriate that is and just ridiculous. It's encouraging fellow citizens to become bounty hunters. 

Kelly: It's disgusting. 

Kendle: It is oppression. It is forcing people to have children, to have this living, breathing life that costs so much money, so much energy

Kelly: and especially if you're trying to do it before it's actually a life. 

Kendle: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelly: We'll talk about it in the next episode Kenny. Don't worry. 

Kendle: I know. 

Kelly: Okay. 

Kendle: Oh, man. 

Kelly: Feel better? 

Kendle: What a week. 

Kelly: Do you feel better? 

Kendle: It's nice to talk about it. 

Kelly: Yeah. Good Im glad.I hope it's like

Kendle: Its a productive setting. 

Kelly: It's good to get it out. Yeah, it's productive. And again, it's just sparking a conversation, a bigger conversation. 

Kendle: Yeah, absolutely. Anything else you want to catch me up on? Oh, I did my homework, kind of. I did half of my homework. 

Kelly: Okay. So one of the last episodes, Kenny's homework was she got some sexy lingerie, and I tasked her with the mission to wear that for yourself before anyone else and just be in that feminine energy. How did it go? 

Kendle: So I only wear the bralette because I never really wear underwear bottoms. 

Kelly: Yeah, okay. I totally understand that. 

Kendle: Yeah. And I think I wore it Saturday and Sunday. I was like, I am feeling sad and depressed, and I need to put something on to make myself feel good. So I wore the top, and it was always kind of like a little like I'm wearing this from myself, but it was like a little giggle. Kelly: Ooo Girl, ok Kenny was feeling herself 

Kendle: I was and it was funny too because I was hanging out with Greg and I was like, you have no idea what I'm wearing. You're not going to see it. I'm not touching any men right now. I'm angry.

[laughter]

Kelly: I Wonder I have been I don't know if it's been my period that's going to be coming here pretty soon, or maybe I have just an extra angry at Allen because of the news. Subconsciously, I'm like, fuck this guy. 

Kendle: Yes. 

Kelly: I love him so much. But fuck you. 

Kendle: Oh, my God. For real, though, I like really want to tussle. And I told Greg this. I was like, I really want to fight. So if I try to pick a fight, just let me be, but I can't help it. And we were walking the dog, and I just wanted to punch him. 

Kelly: We do not condone violence 

Kendle: We do not condone at all, but I just like, I've been wanting to beat the shit out of something, and it's like, there he was. But, God, at the freaking concert, men are as we all do naturally. We look at people. This one man, I'm walking up the stairs by myself, going to the water, and he goes, hey. And I was like, oh, God. I do not have the emotional capacity for this, sir. And he's like, I saw you in the parking lot earlier. And I was like, ok 

Kelly: creepy. 

Kendle: And he was like, you don't remember me? And I was like, I've seen a lot of people. And he was like, Your smile, it's the same. And I was like, only one I have. And I was just like, Read the room. I feel like that's just been my vibe of everything. I'm like, Read the room, everyone. Read the room. Third Eye Blind. Read the room. Freaking avalanche. Read the room, everyone. 

Kelly: Oh, yeah.

Kendle: I know that there are men in our lives that are on our side and support us, and I don't mean to project all this onto them. It's just, like, for some reason is very aggravating and feels very isolating to be women, losing autonomy out of our own bodies. 

Kelly: I mean, my husband was gutted. Like, he was sick. 

Kendle: Yeah. 

Kelly: But at the same time, he's not a woman. He just doesn't know what that really feels like. But at the same time, he’s not that guy. Yeah. Right. Like, he's just not he's, like, a man that has compassion and understanding and cares about women and cares about me. And if it's something that's important to me, it's important to him. And he's having a human reaction. Anyone that doesn't hear that news and feel sick, maybe we should do some self reflecting. Kendle: Yeah. Oh, my God. During the protest, walking by people in restaurants and everything, some people were overjoyed or emotional by the fact that we were doing it. Some people just nothing. Just so apathetic. And I was, like, shocked by that. I was like, have some reaction. What? Just something. 

Kelly: I mean, just think. Some people that are just so disassociated from themselves, they're so disconnected. They're living in so much pain because of the lack of love, 

Kendle: that it's hard to have empathy for people when we don't have empathy and love for ourselves. 

Kelly: Yes, absolutely. That's why I always just have that compassion. 

Kendle: Yeah. It's got to give love, man. 

Kelly: Yeah. It's sad to live a life like that, 

Kendly: for sure. 

Kelly: From experience. 

Kendle: Yeah, from experience. Absolutely. 

Kelly: 100% sad to have to live a life like that. No one should have to live a life like that. 

Kendle: Which is why we started this podcast. That was a good sound. My hands are sweaty, per usual. 

Kelly: Yeah, they are. 

Kendle: Oh, man. Well, yeah, this was all of our 

Kelly: sorry for some of the rambling and ranting, but 

Kendle: sorry not sorry says Demi Levato and I echo, 

Kelly: but Kenny and I are not allowed to talk to each other until we actually podcast, so sometimes it just becomes a lot. 

Kendle: Yeah. 

Kelly: But we hope you enjoyed. 

Kendle: Yes, and we're here for you and we love everybody and tune into Self Love Monday. Yes, there's going to be a lot of Self Love Monday to help process through all of this and some history coming your way too. Thank you.

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